Curse

Sakashi · Aug 13, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Two reasons why i hate this title :

1. There is no point in making a new character just for this title when its character based and not account based.
2. And It's unachievable for 99% of the characters already created, who have died many times before this title was even introduced!

So yes, i would like to see the survivor titles obtainable to characters who can reach the amount of exp needed without dieing and not just the first time.
If that change would upset too many survivor title holders, then i would like to see the title changed to account based.

Sekkira · Aug 13, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Just a note, with my mesmer if my team goes down, I'm the last one standing and res sig already used, I may as well quit out.

Fist_of_God · Aug 13, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

/signed

Bartuc Galadwor · Aug 13, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

/signed
I have been waiting for them to change this since day one. I only want it on my main character but he already has some deaths. Please change it as it is really unfair the way it is now.

Taken · Aug 13, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

There was nothing to prevent us from running a charecter with no deaths before the survivor title. Why should we get a reset now?
Maybe as compensation our old chars could get a death title. I'd love a title to record how many times my toons have died.

Riplox · Aug 13, 2006, 04:06 PM // 16:06

That would be too easy unless you have some insanely huse number of deaths to get to. There is at least one person that I know of that has died 1 million times. LOL they win if there is a death title.

EagleEye33 · Aug 13, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenrath

Sorry but there's plenty of holes in that argument. It is actually easier to get Survivor with a brand new character, especially Canthan.

Don't believe me? Make a new Canthan character. Do all the Shing Jea quests, you'll leave the Island about level 18. A few more side quests and you hit level 20 without ever doing any mainland missions (and thus get Survivor)

It's so laughably easy with a new character, I've done it twice now in around 8 hours. It can probably be done faster even. First time with an assassin of all things. The second time I did it a Ritualist and henchies even (got Masters on the Shing Jea missions easily)

Older characters will not have that advantage since they can't pick up an easy 140k xp just from beginner quests, and chances are probably already done a number of the missions. If anything it will be a bit harder, because probably already done missions and quests with your old character so no easy 1-3k rewards.

Well said...nuff said

Carinae · Aug 13, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

/signed

Bane of Worlds · Aug 13, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

/signed

Scavenger Rage · Aug 13, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

I agree as well..

Maybe something death related would sane both problems...

The way i see you would have to get an amount of XP for each time you died, of course, without dieing again on the process, which would "reset" the title. Maybe not direct relation (otherwise if u died 100 times the 140 000xp would get 2 "pretty" extra zeros and the title would be almost unreachable ^^) but some sort of relation would solve all the problems about the title, not only making it more fun and challenging to obtain, but also not punishing old characters, AND at the same way not ruining the title for people that already created a new char to get it.

It would also be less punitive, SO if u had 100 000 XP and died once, you don’t have to delete or char or anything like it to obtain the title, you would just start over getting XP from the scratch with a penalty to it.

Later.

Marth Reynolds · Aug 13, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

/signed, it's a good way to give people a chance for survivor title without having to remake their old characters with expensive armor and weopons etc.

lofblad · Aug 13, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

/signed

Great idea, I would go for it right away and probably play even more.

Vel Satis · Aug 13, 2006, 06:13 PM // 18:13

/notsigned

Would make the 'survivor' title worthless.

luxor9 · Aug 13, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

/unsigned

for the simple reason I don't need to see 150 MO/W survivors. That will happen and that's why it is like it is now. Starting at lvl 20 and going for survivor is lame.. You already have the best gear and elite skills wow would be real hard to go kill trolls and mino's.

It's a stupid title, I have it on my necro and I've never been asked about it and I don't dance while I afk so people will look at me. As it is now it's pretty hard to do, it's not hard to farm easy exp.

Implement a new survivor-like title for existing players called farmer if you guys want a title that bad.

Super_Nerd0 · Aug 13, 2006, 07:16 PM // 19:16

/signed

canthans can get to lvl 20 EASY on Shing Jea island
its only a bit harder to not die. just dont do the missions until you are lvl 15(you get that in like half an hour on Shing Jea) then you finish it by doing the first mission and the quests to get to the second one.tyrians cantdo that. it takes the whole game just to get to vl 20(at least up to the doppleganger)
but i do agree it should be a one shot thing

Dirty Panda · Aug 13, 2006, 07:18 PM // 19:18

/signed

Coolniceronguy · Aug 13, 2006, 08:10 PM // 20:10

/signed

Also, in my opinion, if a person fails to acquire this title by dying, then the xp counter should be reset, to allow the opportunity to go for this title again. Only having one shot at it seems too hardcore.

Melrel · Aug 13, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

/notsigned

To the people who say it's easier for newer characters to obtain the survivor title are wrong espically if you start off in Tyria like I have done.

All some old character whos most likely finished Tyria or Cantha (possibly both) have to do is cap certain elite skills to choose in their favour and could easily get it within 5-10 hours depending how fast they get to the bosses. Another option is they'll farm Hydras or Minotaurs and quickly get exp without much chance of dieing and have some support of a Monk, Warrior etc. whos also doing it.

A new Canthan can quickly reach to the survivor title as well but it's much harder for them than it is for an older character because they have more chance of dieing, mainly caused by the afflicted's Death Nova and lack of armor.

A new Tyrian will have to process through that mini pvp battle, get to Lion Arch (it's quite hard even if someone runs you because monsters tend to aggro you close by and can do over 50% damage with one swing, depending on your armor). You can clear all the Kaineng quests and reach to lvl 16 at the very maximum but will still have to make a journey to desert to reach the first surviour title.

I have another alternative to benefit both new and old players but not lose too much factor of this title

Survivor - Players can only obtain this title if they reach to 140, 600 without dieing once during that amount, this can be done with any amount of deaths.

Indomitable Survivor - Players can only obtain this title if they reach to 587,500 without dieing once during that amount, this can only be done with under 100 amount of deaths.

Legendary Survivor - Players can obtain this title if they reach to 1,337,500 without dieing once during that amount, this can only be done with 0 deaths.

I reckon with this alternative, people who started from stratch will feel proud to have the legendary survivor and people who have had their characters before knowing about this can still obtain the survivor title.

JMFD · Aug 13, 2006, 09:05 PM // 21:05

/signed

Unfair to older characters as it stands.

xiaotsu · Aug 13, 2006, 09:13 PM // 21:13

It's not unfair to older characters, as Taken said, there was no reason you had to die before the title, stop being greedy for titles, you died, deal with it.